But what can we get from them? The other question, the other parttja (part, with emphasis). We're giving out our knowledge, our system, our wisdom from our fathers and fathers and fathers about the yidaki. What do we get from them?

The more things we are giving out to them, they will be using a lot and say, "aw, it's not from them, it's from us." That's the other thing, that we are afraid to do that. Well, I'm frightened. See, that they can take over the Yol\u systems of yidaki. I'm just saying it, how I think. That's personal.

Not rejecting |^paki for what they can learn about, it's just a matter of, we're doing this... When we going to your land, to your community, what do we get? B^y\u (nothing). There's nothing there like coming together as reconciliation for us. B^y\una (nothing). But they do get from here, from Arnhem Land, from us, in a lot of ways. Like coming to the Garma Festival. Eh bilanya (like that). Why... why... ah baydhi (never mind, leave it), yow. (laughs)